The logical way to look at the Rolling Stone rumors

[Jon MoLester]

First of all, the shows are "posponed", not "cancelled".

There are 14 shows left between today and last scheduled show on June 26.
If the band really was fighting constantly, it's a stretch to think they
could co-exist for that many more dates and off-days. Ditto if someone in
the band was having serious health issues and needed medical attention or
rehab.

I'm not naive enough to think Ed and Dave haven't had disagreements on this
tour, and I'm sure there are therapists/counselors/specialists backstage to
help everyone get along and stay sober. Sorf of like that goof on the
Metallica "Some Kind of Monster" video at $40K a month. But from the show I
attended in Chicago and other videos floating around on the net, the band is
tight onstage and looks to be having fun.

I must say I'm surprised at Rolling Stone putting out such shoddy work, all
based on some unnamed source within the band. Not that RS is still relevant
when it comes to music journalism, but you'd think their reputation over the
last 50 years would prompt them to do a better job. RS seems to have weird
attitudes toward certain bands......they slobber all over whatever the
flavor of the month is, yet intentionally ignore bands like VH, Iron Maiden,
Allman Bros and Kiss that have been around for decades and still make music
and tour. Probably related to Jann Wenner (RS owner) who hates Kiss and
won't allow them in the RRHOF.

[xxx]

either way, time will tell.

[GoBucky]

Post by Jon MoLester
First of all, the shows are "posponed", not "cancelled".
There are 14 shows left between today and last scheduled show on June 26.
If the band really was fighting constantly, it's a stretch to think they
could co-exist for that many more dates and off-days.  Ditto if someone in
the band was having serious health issues and needed medical attention or
rehab.
I'm not naive enough to think Ed and Dave haven't had disagreements on this
tour, and I'm sure there are therapists/counselors/specialists backstage to
help everyone get along and stay sober.  Sorf of like that goof on the
Metallica "Some Kind of Monster" video at $40K a month.  But from the show I
attended in Chicago and other videos floating around on the net, the band is
tight onstage and looks to be having fun.
I must say I'm surprised at Rolling Stone putting out such shoddy work, all
based on some unnamed source within the band.  Not that RS is still relevant
when it comes to music journalism, but you'd think their reputation over the
last 50 years would prompt them to do a better job.  RS seems to have weird
attitudes toward certain bands......they slobber all over whatever the
flavor of the month is, yet intentionally ignore bands like VH, Iron Maiden,
Allman Bros and Kiss that have been around for decades and still make music
and tour.  Probably related to Jann Wenner (RS owner) who hates Kiss and
won't allow them in the RRHOF.

They were tight as hell and smiling all night on Sat in St.
Paul...great show...better than Chicago in Feb!

[xxx]

Post by GoBucky

Post by Jon MoLester
First of all, the shows are "posponed", not "cancelled".
There are 14 shows left between today and last scheduled show on June 26.
If the band really was fighting constantly, it's a stretch to think they
could co-exist for that many more dates and off-days.  Ditto if someone in
the band was having serious health issues and needed medical attention or
rehab.
I'm not naive enough to think Ed and Dave haven't had disagreements on this
tour, and I'm sure there are therapists/counselors/specialists backstage to
help everyone get along and stay sober.  Sorf of like that goof on the
Metallica "Some Kind of Monster" video at $40K a month.  But from the show I
attended in Chicago and other videos floating around on the net, the band is
tight onstage and looks to be having fun.
I must say I'm surprised at Rolling Stone putting out such shoddy work, all
based on some unnamed source within the band.  Not that RS is still relevant
when it comes to music journalism, but you'd think their reputation over the
last 50 years would prompt them to do a better job.  RS seems to have weird
attitudes toward certain bands......they slobber all over whatever the
flavor of the month is, yet intentionally ignore bands like VH, Iron Maiden,
Allman Bros and Kiss that have been around for decades and still make music
and tour.  Probably related to Jann Wenner (RS owner) who hates Kiss and
won't allow them in the RRHOF.

They were tight as hell and smiling all night on Sat in St.
Paul...great show...better than Chicago in Feb!

did you see the april chicago show, aswell? i went to both chicago
shows. i thought both were good, outside of roth getting pissy about
the blowers/fans both times. the 2nd show was about 15 minutes longer,
tho (1:45 vs 2 hrs).

[GoBucky]

Post by xxx

Post by GoBucky

Post by Jon MoLester
First of all, the shows are "posponed", not "cancelled".
There are 14 shows left between today and last scheduled show on June 26.
If the band really was fighting constantly, it's a stretch to think they
could co-exist for that many more dates and off-days.  Ditto if someone in
the band was having serious health issues and needed medical attention or
rehab.
I'm not naive enough to think Ed and Dave haven't had disagreements on this
tour, and I'm sure there are therapists/counselors/specialists backstage to
help everyone get along and stay sober.  Sorf of like that goof on the
Metallica "Some Kind of Monster" video at $40K a month.  But from the show I
attended in Chicago and other videos floating around on the net, the band is
tight onstage and looks to be having fun.
I must say I'm surprised at Rolling Stone putting out such shoddy work, all
based on some unnamed source within the band.  Not that RS is still relevant
when it comes to music journalism, but you'd think their reputation over the
last 50 years would prompt them to do a better job.  RS seems to have weird
attitudes toward certain bands......they slobber all over whatever the
flavor of the month is, yet intentionally ignore bands like VH, Iron Maiden,
Allman Bros and Kiss that have been around for decades and still make music
and tour.  Probably related to Jann Wenner (RS owner) who hates Kiss and
won't allow them in the RRHOF.

They were tight as hell and smiling all night on Sat in St.
Paul...great show...better than Chicago in Feb!

did you see the april chicago show, aswell? i went to both chicago
shows. i thought both were good, outside of roth getting pissy about
the blowers/fans both times. the 2nd show was about 15 minutes longer,
tho (1:45 vs 2 hrs).

No, I have Blackhawks season tix and the Rosemont show was on a hockey
night so I sold them to my buddy. He said the Rosemont show was a lot
better than the UC show. I saw that the Rosemont show got The Full Bug
and Jamies Crying which is very cool! St. Paul got Cradle which was
cool, but it replaced Outta Love Again, which I love. St. Paul was
exactly two hours as well.

[xxx]

i just looked and they have 2-3 days between shows. they play for 2
hrs and the shows are a lot more low key than all the jumping around
they used to do. i'm sure they have top notch travel and hotel
accommodations...and this schedule is too grueling for them?? either
they're full of shit or are some weak sucks these days. they took the
better part of a decade to decade and a half off. this band has turned
into some major league pussies.

[Robin K. Banks]

i just looked and they have 2-3 days between shows. they play for 2 hrs
and the shows are a lot more low key than all the jumping around they
used to do. i'm sure they have top notch travel and hotel
accommodations...and this schedule is too grueling for them?? either
they're full of shit or are some weak sucks these days. they took the
better part of a decade to decade and a half off. this band has turned
into some major league pussies.

The alleged good hotels are all infested with bedbugs. :p

But being 57 and standing on your toes screaming your ass off repeatedly
for 2 hours the first time takes its toll. Try it every other night. It's
not like the guitars would be a chore either...</sarcasm>

I hope they play more songs off the new album. There are 6 or 7 killer
singles there... They said they are regrouping to rework the show and add
some songs at VHND.com

--

[IGB]

On Sun, 27 May 2012 06:22:53 +0000 (UTC), "Robin K. Banks"

Post by Robin K. Banks

i just looked and they have 2-3 days between shows. they play for 2 hrs
and the shows are a lot more low key than all the jumping around they
used to do. i'm sure they have top notch travel and hotel
accommodations...and this schedule is too grueling for them?? either
they're full of shit or are some weak sucks these days. they took the
better part of a decade to decade and a half off. this band has turned
into some major league pussies.

The alleged good hotels are all infested with bedbugs. :p
But being 57 and standing on your toes screaming your ass off repeatedly
for 2 hours the first time takes its toll. Try it every other night. It's
not like the guitars would be a chore either...</sarcasm>
I hope they play more songs off the new album. There are 6 or 7 killer
singles there... They said they are regrouping to rework the show and add
some songs at VHND.com

Whatever it is, I don't think it's because of them not getting along.
If there were problems, I think the new shows would have never been
announced in the first place.

I think it could be burnout, but also maybe they were offered a
shitload of money to go to Australia or somewhere else. Like when they
canceled a 2004 show to go down to Puerto Rico for a wad of cash.

I think these guys are pretty united in making sure Sammy ends his
career in obscurity. The more shit he talks, the stronger the bond
between them.

Keep talking, Spammy... love ya!

[xxx]

Post by IGB
On Sun, 27 May 2012 06:22:53 +0000 (UTC), "Robin K. Banks"

Post by Robin K. Banks

i just looked and they have 2-3 days between shows. they play for 2 hrs
and the shows are a lot more low key than all the jumping around they
used to do. i'm sure they have top notch travel and hotel
accommodations...and this schedule is too grueling for them?? either
they're full of shit or are some weak sucks these days. they took the
better part of a decade to decade and a half off. this band has turned
into some major league pussies.

The alleged good hotels are all infested with bedbugs. :p
But being 57 and standing on your toes screaming your ass off repeatedly
for 2 hours the first time takes its toll. Try it every other night. It's
not like the guitars would be a chore either...</sarcasm>
I hope they play more songs off the new album. There are 6 or 7 killer
singles there... They said they are regrouping to rework the show and add
some songs at VHND.com

Whatever it is, I don't think it's because of them not getting along.
If there were problems, I think the new shows would have never been
announced in the first place.
I think it could be burnout, but also maybe they were offered a
shitload of money to go to Australia or somewhere else. Like when they
canceled a 2004 show to go down to Puerto Rico for a wad of cash.
I think these guys are pretty united in making sure Sammy ends his
career in obscurity. The more shit he talks, the stronger the bond
between them.
Keep talking, Spammy... love ya!

dude, i don't think sammy is even on their radar.

[IGB]

Post by xxx

Post by IGB
On Sun, 27 May 2012 06:22:53 +0000 (UTC), "Robin K. Banks"

Post by Robin K. Banks

i just looked and they have 2-3 days between shows. they play for 2 hrs
and the shows are a lot more low key than all the jumping around they
used to do. i'm sure they have top notch travel and hotel
accommodations...and this schedule is too grueling for them?? either
they're full of shit or are some weak sucks these days. they took the
better part of a decade to decade and a half off. this band has turned
into some major league pussies.

The alleged good hotels are all infested with bedbugs. :p
But being 57 and standing on your toes screaming your ass off repeatedly
for 2 hours the first time takes its toll. Try it every other night. It's
not like the guitars would be a chore either...</sarcasm>
I hope they play more songs off the new album. There are 6 or 7 killer
singles there... They said they are regrouping to rework the show and add
some songs at VHND.com

Whatever it is, I don't think it's because of them not getting along.
If there were problems, I think the new shows would have never been
announced in the first place.
I think it could be burnout, but also maybe they were offered a
shitload of money to go to Australia or somewhere else. Like when they
canceled a 2004 show to go down to Puerto Rico for a wad of cash.
I think these guys are pretty united in making sure Sammy ends his
career in obscurity. The more shit he talks, the stronger the bond
between them.
Keep talking, Spammy... love ya!

dude, i don't think sammy is even on their radar.

Then that would be even better yet...

[xxx]

Post by IGB
On Sun, 27 May 2012 06:22:53 +0000 (UTC), "Robin K. Banks"

Post by Robin K. Banks

i just looked and they have 2-3 days between shows. they play for 2 hrs
and the shows are a lot more low key than all the jumping around they
used to do. i'm sure they have top notch travel and hotel
accommodations...and this schedule is too grueling for them?? either
they're full of shit or are some weak sucks these days. they took the
better part of a decade to decade and a half off. this band has turned
into some major league pussies.

The alleged good hotels are all infested with bedbugs. :p
But being 57 and standing on your toes screaming your ass off repeatedly
for 2 hours the first time takes its toll. Try it every other night. It's
not like the guitars would be a chore either...</sarcasm>
I hope they play more songs off the new album. There are 6 or 7 killer
singles there... They said they are regrouping to rework the show and add
some songs at VHND.com

Whatever it is, I don't think it's because of them not getting along.
If there were problems, I think the new shows would have never been
announced in the first place.
I think it could be burnout, but also maybe they were offered a
shitload of money to go to Australia or somewhere else. Like when they
canceled a 2004 show to go down to Puerto Rico for a wad of cash.
I think these guys are pretty united in making sure Sammy ends his
career in obscurity. The more shit he talks, the stronger the bond
between them.
Keep talking, Spammy... love ya!

dude, i don't think sammy is even on their radar.

[Clocky]

Post by xxx
i just looked and they have 2-3 days between shows. they play for 2
hrs and the shows are a lot more low key than all the jumping around
they used to do. i'm sure they have top notch travel and hotel
accommodations...and this schedule is too grueling for them?? either
they're full of shit or are some weak sucks these days. they took the
better part of a decade to decade and a half off. this band has turned
into some major league pussies.

They are also playing straight, not artificially jacked up and they are well
into their 50's.

And they're not saying they can't continue, they are saying they don't want
it to turn into a chore. If they stop having fun, so will their audience!

[xxx]

they've taken plenty of yrs off. to not be able to play a show every
other day or 3rd day with the best travel and hotels...makes them
sound like some serious pussies (or they're lying about how things are
going with the band). the show is a lot more low key than in earlier
yrs. c'mon. might as well change the band name to van candy-ass.

[Clocky]

Post by xxx
they've taken plenty of yrs off. to not be able to play a show every
other day or 3rd day with the best travel and hotels...makes them
sound like some serious pussies (or they're lying about how things are
going with the band). the show is a lot more low key than in earlier
yrs. c'mon. might as well change the band name to van candy-ass.

Eddy has battled cancer twice, and if you know anyone who has cancer
treatment then you should know that their stamina is never the same as it
was before.

If taking a break means I get to see them in Australia at a later date
playing as well as they have been then so be it.

[xxx]

Post by Clocky

Post by xxx
they've taken plenty of yrs off. to not be able to play a show every
other day or 3rd day with the best travel and hotels...makes them
sound like some serious pussies (or they're lying about how things are
going with the band). the show is a lot more low key than in earlier
yrs. c'mon. might as well change the band name to van candy-ass.

Eddy has battled cancer twice, and if you know anyone who has cancer
treatment then you should know that their stamina is never the same as it
was before.
If taking a break means I get to see them in Australia at a later date
playing as well as they have been then so be it.

i wonder if he has another re-occurrence that they're not telling us
about. wonder how long the postponements will be...or if they even
know yet right now.

[Clocky]

Post by xxx

Post by Clocky

Post by xxx
they've taken plenty of yrs off. to not be able to play a show every
other day or 3rd day with the best travel and hotels...makes them
sound like some serious pussies (or they're lying about how things
are going with the band). the show is a lot more low key than in
earlier yrs. c'mon. might as well change the band name to van
candy-ass.

Eddy has battled cancer twice, and if you know anyone who has cancer
treatment then you should know that their stamina is never the same
as it was before.
If taking a break means I get to see them in Australia at a later
date playing as well as they have been then so be it.

i wonder if he has another re-occurrence that they're not telling us
about. wonder how long the postponements will be...or if they even
know yet right now.

It came back last year (IIRC) requiring further treatment according to a
fairly recent interview.