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dave versus sammy tour reviews no1
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s***@hotmail.com
2012-02-20 11:34:58 UTC
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i said i'd post them. this is the first i found. proves i'm very
honest:-

A Tale of Two Singers



On the ferry platform at Penn’s Landing on the Philadelphia side of
the Delaware River, where most Tweeter Center concert goers migrate
from, the good natured Dave or Sammy dispute raged.



“Sammy is just old,” began a man in his early forties wearing a teal
polo shirt.



“Old?!” came the incredulous response from a tank top wearing Sammy
fan who was swigging a can of Coors Light. “David Lee Roth doesn’t
even have any hair left—or a voice!”



And so it went. Though not quite a topic for a philosophy lecture,
there is something about the debate over who was the better of the two
former Van Halen singers that just won’t recede. Most agree that while
Roth had the attitude, the drive and the smarts to make Van Halen the
biggest rock band on the Southern California scene in the late ‘70s
and early ‘80s, it’s only realistic to note that Hagar had the better
pipes, reaching notes that the Diamond One would never even bother
trying to hit.



When it was announced in April that the two would join forces on a
summer tour, it wasn’t so much shocking as much as a sense of “What
the hell took so long?” Eddie Van Halen was battling both cancer and
marriage woes, and a rumored reunion attempt with Roth fell through
numerous times since the 1996 MTV Video Music Awards debacle. Sammy
continued to plug away at a pitiful solo career, turning most of his
energy into becoming a successful tequila salesman.



These are two men who crave the spotlight, and playing small venue
tours or the occasional festival just wasn’t doing it for either of
them, leaving no choice but the wise ploy to cajole whatever was left
out of the Van Halen name without actually enlisting the Van Halen
brothers (Hagar even brought Van Halen bass player and resident mime
Michael Anthony out for a few dates).



Billed as “The Tour You Waited For: Song for Song, the Heavyweight
Champs of Rock and Roll,” Hagar and Roth would switch as headliner
each show, with no opening act, the premise being to let the fans
decide who was the winner. Though back and forth throughout much of
the summer, Roth looked to be on the ropes coming to the Camden
waterfront, as it was mere days before that Hagar slammed him
publicly, calling him uncooperative, saying that he was living in the
past, and likening him to Liberace.



Camden was Roth’s night to open, and he proved that just when you
think he’s down for the count, that’s when he is the most dangerous.
Wearing a skintight pink lamé vest over a polka dot shirt and pants
dotted with black triangles, Roth brought the crowd back to 1984,
opening with “Hot For Teacher”, leading the cry of “I heard you missed
us…we’re baaaaack!” Roth relied almost solely on Van Halen tunes,
which in all fairness, only made sense. Did anyone really want to hear
“Just Like Paradise” from his blip of a solo career?



Bringing out the time tested hits “Panama”, Ain’t Talkin’ ‘Bout Love”,
and “Ice Cream Man”, Roth also dug deep into the Van Halen catalog for
the chestnuts “D.O.A.” and “So This Is Love?” His band was tight, and,
for the most part, stayed in the background. Roth’s voice, which has
been up and down over the past few years, was primed for the evening,
and there weren’t many notes in his limited range that he missed.
Looking freakishly fit for his age, well tanned and muscular, the hair
thinning but still intact, Roth threw high kicks and did the toe
touching “Air-Roth” off of the drum riser with ease. Even playing the
part of sexy rock god doesn’t seem staged, it seems like the man many
consider to be rock’s greatest frontman truly believes he is 18 again.



“It’s hot tonight, and I don’t know whether it’s the heat or the
humidity,” Roth said as he began one of his many rants, focusing on a
pretty girl in the front row. “But you are hot baby! What’s your name,
baby? You’re the kind of girl I’d give my name to…not my real name.”



The cheesy one-liners are what make Dave Dave. He constantly has that
huge, mouth agape grin going, or is stuffing the microphone down his
pants while doing a little hip shake for the girls with his tongue
wagging. On this night, he lost none of his edge and gave the audience
exactly what they wanted.



Hagar, on the other hand, looks like he has forgotten what it means to
rock and roll, and has surprisingly become more of a parody of his
former self than Roth. Once the scrappy boxing glove clad singer for
Montrose and later Van Halen, Hagar is now the goofy and affable Cabo
Wabo guy. Bringing onstage two sets of bleachers filled with the most
drunken fans available from Philadelphia, a makeshift bar, and
waitresses delivering drinks in skimpy outfits, it was Hagar, and not
Roth, who went for the cheap cheers by getting the titty-cam started.
Hagar ambled across the stage in a display of shameless self-promotion
with his “Cabo Wabo” T-shirt on, intent on playing the role of “the
working man’s rocker.”



Opening with the horrendous “Shaka Doobie” from his latest album, Ten
13, Hagar weaved in and out of too many numbers from his less than
prolific solo outings along with his standard fare of Van Halen songs
that his backing band seemed intent on butchering. Telling stories
before many of them about how he and Eddie originally came up with the
compositions, Hagar seemed like a man pining for an ex-wife, playing
with more or less resignation than emotion. By the time he closed his
set with “Dreams” from the Van Halen landmark 5150, much of the crowd
had already begun to walk out. Perhaps it was for the best, as they
missed his multiple failures to reach the high notes of the track.



“Song for a song,” the evening clearly belonged to Roth. The quality
of music, the stage presence and the selection of hits played all
pointed to a win. Hagar was spent and didn’t care about the sound of
the band or his appearance. Going through the motions was painfully
Sammy’s show, while Dave was out to prove himself.



In truth, either of these guys would kill to be back in Van Halen,
trying to recapture the magic of yesteryear. Signs point to Sammy
reentering the fold if the Van Halen brothers ever come out of their
self-imposed exile, but it would be in their best interest to at least
give both of their former singers the shot. They made it through this
tour without murdering each other, and as good as one or the other may
be solo on any given night, they don’t come close what they had as
part of the Van Halen unit. It’s high time for the band to do
something drastic, instead of sitting back and watching what is left
of their legacy rapidly fade away.


first round to dave
s***@hotmail.com
2012-02-20 11:55:53 UTC
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another review. this one gives it to dave

Being billed as the fight of the century, at least when it comes to
rock frontmen from Van Halen, the double billing of Sammy Hagar and
David Lee Roth certainly had a lot to measure up to.

The battle pitted David Lee Roth a.k.a. Diamond Dave, the singer who
brought Van Halen into the spotlight against Sammy Hagar a.k.a. The
Red Rocker, who rode the momentum built by Roth with Van Halen to fill
the longest and most successful tenure of the two. With his solo
career, Hagar definitely has the most ammunition of the two, but
neither was willing to back down.

The first surprise of the day was that David Lee Roth took the stage
first. He was originally scheduled to close the show since the Roth
and Hagar swap opening spots each show, but everyone was given a taste
of Diamond Dave sparkling in the sun.

Roth came out with a blistering opening one-two punch with Van Halen
classics, “Hot For Teacher” and “Panama.” Diamond Dave, clad in a blue
vinyl suit, kicked and belted out the songs without losing much of the
glimmer from his earlier days.

With this show coming mid-tour, Roth seemed to have shaken off some of
the vocal rust that had been the word from his earlier shows. Diamond
Dave seemed to be enjoying himself and giving the audience what they
wanted: Van Halen classics, high kicks and rock star attitude. Roth
had no problem supplying these.

With classics like “Running With The Devil” and “Everybody Wants Some”
set the pace for Roth’s set, while technical problems with “Yankee
Rose” disturbed Roth’s solo material. This did not stop Roth from
taking everyone down memory lane with a partially acoustic version of
“Ice Cream Man,” which saw Roth on guitar for an intro and the first
verse.

Closing with a scorching rendition of “Jump,” Roth put up a great act
to follow, complete with a couple of aerial splits off the drum riser.

Hagar’s set began annoyingly, as the Red Rocker cloaked the stage in a
banner advertising his bar. He even has gone as far as to name his
band the Waboritas, another reference to said restaurant.

Upon taking the stage, Hagar opened with “Red,” which was a solid
opener for Hagar, but it definitely lacked the punch of “Hot For
Teacher.” Not being one to disappoint, Hagar promptly reached into his
Van Halen years for “Standing on Top of the World.”

With a bit more hoopla on the stage, Hagar had the stage show edge,
but spending a great deal of time holding a guitar, standing behind a
microphone, Hagar lost some of his edge.

“Runaround” was definitely one of the key moments where Hagar really
pushed himself into his own and got some of the early-era Van Halen
fans, who had not yet hit the exits after Roth’s set ended, into the
set. Hagar brought an element of beach trash to his set that made you
look around for Parrotheads at times.

The house came down with “I Can’t Drive 55,” which may have something
to do with Houston dropping its speed limit down to 55 again. These
high points put Hagar and Roth neck to neck when the score cards came
in. Being a fan of Van Halen’s older music, my card put Roth as the
champion, but Hagar worked hard enough to make it a decision instead
of a knockout.


this one goes daves way.

score now DLR 2 sammy hagar 1
CG
2012-02-20 12:15:47 UTC
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Post by s***@hotmail.com
another review. this one gives it to dave
Being billed as the fight of the century, at least when it comes to
rock frontmen from Van Halen, the double billing of Sammy Hagar and
David Lee Roth certainly had a lot to measure up to.
The battle pitted David Lee Roth a.k.a. Diamond Dave, the singer who
brought Van Halen into the spotlight against Sammy Hagar a.k.a. The
Red Rocker, who rode the momentum built by Roth with Van Halen to fill
the longest and most successful tenure of the two. With his solo
career, Hagar definitely has the most ammunition of the two, but
neither was willing to back down.
The first surprise of the day was that David Lee Roth took the stage
first. He was originally scheduled to close the show since the Roth
and Hagar swap opening spots each show, but everyone was given a taste
of Diamond Dave sparkling in the sun.
Roth came out with a blistering opening one-two punch with Van Halen
classics, “Hot For Teacher” and “Panama.” Diamond Dave, clad in a blue
vinyl suit, kicked and belted out the songs without losing much of the
glimmer from his earlier days.
With this show coming mid-tour, Roth seemed to have shaken off some of
the vocal rust that had been the word from his earlier shows. Diamond
Dave seemed to be enjoying himself and giving the audience what they
wanted: Van Halen classics, high kicks and rock star attitude. Roth
had no problem supplying these.
With classics like “Running With The Devil” and “Everybody Wants Some”
set the pace for Roth’s set, while technical problems with “Yankee
Rose” disturbed Roth’s solo material. This did not stop Roth from
taking everyone down memory lane with a partially acoustic version of
“Ice Cream Man,” which saw Roth on guitar for an intro and the first
verse.
Closing with a scorching rendition of “Jump,” Roth put up a great act
to follow, complete with a couple of aerial splits off the drum riser.
Hagar’s set began annoyingly, as the Red Rocker cloaked the stage in a
banner advertising his bar. He even has gone as far as to name his
band the Waboritas, another reference to said restaurant.
Upon taking the stage, Hagar opened with “Red,” which was a solid
opener for Hagar, but it definitely lacked the punch of “Hot For
Teacher.” Not being one to disappoint, Hagar promptly reached into his
Van Halen years for “Standing on Top of the World.”
With a bit more hoopla on the stage, Hagar had the stage show edge,
but spending a great deal of time holding a guitar, standing behind a
microphone, Hagar lost some of his edge.
“Runaround” was definitely one of the key moments where Hagar really
pushed himself into his own and got some of the early-era Van Halen
fans, who had not yet hit the exits after Roth’s set ended, into the
set. Hagar brought an element of beach trash to his set that made you
look around for Parrotheads at times.
The house came down with “I Can’t Drive 55,” which may have something
to do with Houston dropping its speed limit down to 55 again. These
high points put Hagar and Roth neck to neck when the score cards came
in. Being a fan of Van Halen’s older music, my card put Roth as the
champion, but Hagar worked hard enough to make it a decision instead
of a knockout.
this one goes daves way.
score now DLR 2 sammy hagar 1
Welcome to 10 years ago. While you're at it, post some reviews of the
Diver Down tour in comparison with whatever crap shows Hagar was doing
at the time.
s***@hotmail.com
2012-02-20 11:50:13 UTC
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second review. this one goes sammy's way

CUYAHOGA FALLS, Ohio — The pervading feeling between dueling former
Van Halen frontmen David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar may never be love,
but fans showed a lot of it Wednesday at Blossom Music Center.

Vintage Van Halen T-shirts peppered the fiery crowd. Fortysomething
women fashioned the Van Halen symbol with their hands as they shook
their shoulders to songs such as "5150" and "Panama." A group of
teenage boys wrote with marker "f--- Eddie" on their arms, referring,
of course, to VH guitarist Eddie Van Halen.

The admiration was mutual between the crowd and Roth and Hagar. Mop-
haired Hagar opened the show at 7:15 p.m. — the singers are
alternating set order during the tour — with a video retrospective
that included interviews, clips of magazine stories and Van Halen
photos. It hit a snag midway through, and kicked back to the beginning
of the film. When it finished, a curtain was drawn to allow a select
number of fans to stand on risers behind the band in an effort to
maintain Hagar's tradition of creating a club atmosphere onstage.

Bathed in red lights, Hagar kicked off his set with the apropos
"Red."

"We're gonna turn this whole f---ing place red," screamed Hagar, who
was wearing a yellow T-shirt from his Cabo Wabo club that said, "Got
Tequila" across his chest. He quickly went into the Van Halen hit
"Runaround," which prompted the sea of fans to collectively mimic
Hagar, who was whipping his arm around in a circular motion.

At times, Hagar was a little too chatty between songs, often using
long stories to segue into the next tune.

"It's still daylight and I'm going to get drunk," Hagar said. He
yelled "Waitress!" and in response, a scantily clad woman arrived
onstage to pour him a margarita. "It's my first of the day, so make it
a double," he instructed.

He coaxed the woman, a "calendar girl" from a local radio station, to
imbibe with him momentarily. "It's OK to drink on the job. As a matter
of fact, it's mandatory."

After wrapping up "Top of the World," Hagar admitted that he was
somewhat nervous.

"I didn't know what to expect today because, well, you know why," he
said, referring to his tempestuous relationship with Roth. "All I got
to say is this is: f---ing killer. This is the sh--. That's what I'm
talkin' about. Waitress!"

Hagar took a potshot at Eddie Van Halen, who is now reportedly healthy
after receiving treatment for cancer. Among the groups of fans onstage
was a cardboard cut-out of the axeman, whose head the red rocker
smacked after saying, "You don't have nothin' to say? Didn't think
so."

He further revved up the crowd by hitting a Cabo Wabo Tequila bottle
piñata with his guitar after singing "Mas Tequila." When the bottle
opened, a mop-haired green worm popped out.

Vocally, Hagar rose above a hoarse-sounding Diamond Dave, who needed a
bit of polishing. Hagar's voice soared to impressive heights during
songs such as "Eagles Fly," "Dreams" and the closer, "Right Now."

Roth was the antithesis of Hagar, who used videotapes of topless women
at one point as a backdrop for his show. The flamboyant original VH
frontman opted for a more "artsy" approach with his videos, repeatedly
showing different variations of cat-suit-wearing women and an armed
Roth searching the halls for those unknown. Interspersed with those
scenes were shots of Roth doing martial arts.

He couldn't measure up to Hagar's charisma, however. Aside from a few
kicks, Roth exchanged personality for shaking his spandex-covered
lower body toward the audience. His stage banter was minimal; he let
his body and lyrics do the talking for him. Roth, who botched the
words to "(Oh) Pretty Woman," used a bottle of Jack Daniel's to mimic
a sex act and, upon "completion," splashed the liquor on fans sitting
close to the stage.

Using suspenders to keep up his spandex pants, Dave ended his set with
a martial-arts-style, baton-twirling number during an instrumental
part of Van Halen's hit "Jump." He bowed with the stick tucked under
his arm, looking like a majorette in a high school band.

Van Halen fans' "Sammy vs. Dave" battle clearly had a winner Wednesday
night: Right here, right now, Hagar was on "Top of the World."

Sammy Hagar set list:

•"Red"
•"Runaround"
•"Three Lock Box"
•"There's Only One Way to Rock"
•"Give to Live"
•"Top of the World"
•"Why Can't This Be Love"
•"5150"
•"Poundcake"
•"Finish What Ya Started"
•"Eagles Fly"
•"Little White Lies"
•"I Can't Drive 55"
•"Heavy Metal"
•"Mas Tequila" encore:

•"Dreams"
•"Right Now"

David Lee Roth set list:

•"Hot for Teacher"
•"Panama"
•"And the Cradle Will Rock"
•"Mean Street"
•"Dance the Night Away"
•"Runnin' With the Devil"
•"I'm the One"
•"You Really Got Me"
•"Beautiful Girls"
•"So This Is Love?"
•"Atomic Punk"
•"Little Dreamer"
•"(Oh) Pretty Woman"
•"Yankee Rose"
•"Ice Cream Man"
•"Everybody Wants Some"
•"Unchained"
•"Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love"
encore:
•"Jump"

For more sights and stories from concerts around the country, check
out MTV News Tour Reports.


round 2 to sammy.
score DLR 1 Sammy Hagar 1

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